Obama's Debate 'Words, Just Words'

During the first Presidential debate last Friday night, Sen. Barack Obama made two powerful points that seemed to make some points for him and against Sen. John McCain. One was his ‘me too’ response to what McCain said about a bracelet he wears from a fallen soldier. The other was that Dr. Henry Kissinger, a McCain adviser, supported his view that the U.S. president should meet with Iran’s president and other rogue dictators without preconditions.

His dance about Henry Kissinger’s advice was deceptive, if not simply indicative of a candidate loose with the facts. But don’t expect the mainstream media to set the record straight.

Here is a quote from Dr. Kissinger immediately after the debate about Obama’s remark.

‘Senator McCain is right. I would not recommend the next President of the United States engage in talks with Iran at the Presidential level. My views on this issue are entirely compatible with the views of my friend Senator John McCain. We do not agree on everything, but we do agree that any negotiations with Iran must be geared to reality.’

The bracelet issue is really not much of an issue, except for the fact that Obama was asked by the family not to bring up their son’s name or use it in speeches and debates. The father and mother, since divorced, have both confirmed that point.

All that can be said about it with any certitude now is that Obama showed the world how deep his commitment to that soldier was when he didn’t even know his name. And, that for a man wanting to be Commander in Chief, he can not be trusted to keep his word to the mother of a fallen soldier.

For the mother’s part, she is an Obama supporter. She is reported to have said that Obama’s mention of her son on Friday was appropriate because he was responding after Sen. John McCain said a soldier’s mother gave him a bracelet.

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  1. I had a feeling that would be your reaction to what are really pretty solid examples, which is why I didn’t spend more time providing more. Some people are just determined to drink the Kool-Aid 🙂

  2. “The McCain campaign has a VERY casual relationship with the truth.” We were talking about McCain and Obama, the men. Not their ‘campaign.’

    I haven’t seen a shred of ‘truth’ on that which came out of Obama’s mouth:

    “Nobody thinks that Bush and McCain have a real answer to the challenges we face. So what they’re going to try to do is make you scared of me,” Obama said. “You know, he’s not patriotic enough, he’s got a funny name, you know, he doesn’t look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills.”

    I haven’t seen any evidence of that happening. And the reason is, is that Obama said it was what ‘they’re going to try to do,’ not what they’ve done. The only truth in that statement is that Obama is playing the race card in order to win an election. And that is not conduct becoming a presidential candidate. Not a republican candidate anyways.

  3. 1. I think the point McCain was making was, of course, AFTER he got to Congress, and BEFORE terrorists blew up their barracks. That’s what I remember him saying at a debate early on.

    2. Not sure about misleading. It’s those gray areas again. What isn’t misleading is the fact that Obama is all about raising taxes. And it wasn’t until just a few weeks ago that he changed his mind on letting ‘some’ of the ‘Bush tax cuts’ remain.

    3. About McCain warning about the coming economic disaster, from this post:
    Three years ago in 2005, in a party line vote, Democrats voted to against a bill that, BTW was co-sponsored by Sen. John McCain, would have introduced some reforms to Freddie and Fanny called the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005. That bill would have introduced some sanity, some fiscal responsibility, into underwriting home mortgages. The bill failed to pass. Sen. Barack Obama, btw, was on the side of Democrats and was against this bill. In fact, ten years previous, in 1995, Barack Obama was the Chicago attorney representing ACORN that was instrumental in getting the Clinton administration to ’strengthen’ the Community Reinvestment Act.

    4. ‘Strongly condemn’ is diplo speak for ‘I’m not taking a stand until I check with my advisers.’ Obama’s ‘position’ on Russia’s invasion evolved over the course of 3 days to essentially what McCain’s was on day one.

  4. McCain mistruths and inaccuracies abounded during the debate.

    1. He didn’t stand up to Ronald Reagan regarding sending troops to Lebanon. Marines first went to Lebanon in 1982, before McCain came to Congress. By the time McCain came to Congress, 54 Marines had already lost their lives in Lebanon. He was just trying to stretch some facts to score some points.
    2. McCain claimed that Obama voted in the Senate to raise taxes on anyone making more than 42,000 dollars a year. This is misleading. The vote that McCain was talking about was a non-binding resolution on the budget that envisioned letting the Bush tax cuts to expire, as scheduled, in 2011. But these budget resolutions come up every year, and do not represent a vote for higher taxes in future years. In fact, Obama said he would continue the Bush tax cuts for middle and low-income taxpayers; that he will cut taxes for all but the wealthiest taxpayers.
    3. McCain said, “Let me point out, I also warned about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and warned about corporate greed and excess and CEO pay and all that. A lot of us saw this train wreck coming.” In December 2007, though, McCain said in an interview with the editorial board of New Hampshire’s Keene Sentinel, “I’d like to tell you that I did anticipate it, but I have to give you straight talk, I did not.” I have video on that.
    4. He mischaracterised Obama’s response to the Russian invasion of Georgia. He said that Obama’s first statement was “both sides ought to show restraint”… He missed the previous sentence of that statement: “I STRONGLY CONDEMN the outbreak of violence in Georgia, and urge an immediate end to armed conflict.”

    That’s really just a sampling, too… If I put a lot of time into this, I am pretty sure I could refute an astounding percentage of the sentences he spoke. The McCain campaign has a VERY casual relationship with the truth.

  5. If he did that during that debate, I’d like to see them. I’m not interested in a game.

    What Obama did was try to make McCain look like a fool by lying about what Kissinger had said, in one of only a couple one-on-one debates that they will have before the election. And also to suggest that Kissinger was on his (Obama’s) side. That is one of the two topics of this post.

    The fact that the media is giving Obama a pass on it speaks volumes about them. Similarly,the fact that Obama would do what he did in the first of only a couple debates speaks volumes about his character as well.

    Candidates on both sides play in that gray area. But if you see what Kissinger himself said, I’m not seeing any gray area. When Obama misquoted Kissinger by suggesting presidential-level meetings, he lied. To create wiggle room by later suggesting lower-level meetings, which is what Kissinger and McCain agree on, it is being dishonest about what Obama’s intention was when he mentioned McCain specifically, and not a Sec. of State or other underlings.

    I’m not complaining that Obama lied. I’m just doing the job the mainstream media won’t by pointing it out because the so-called ‘undecideds’ need to know the truth.

  6. Loose with the facts? Are you serious? If we want to get into a loose with the fact game, I can give you a minimum of ten examples where McCain distorted truths or spread mistruths.

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